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Re: Amerindian navigators and Eurocentrism in scholarship
On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:52:29 GMT, ronhl@juno.com (Ron Hopkins-Lutz)
wrote:
>In article <341b467b.518910967@news.mindspring.com>, WWallace@freedom.org (William Wallace) wrote:
>}On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:19:27 -0700, hgibbons@spamproof.stic.net (Hugh
>}Gibbons) wrote:
>}>In article <3419c63b.420544741@news.mindspring.com>, WWallace@freedom.org
>}>(William Wallace) wrote:
>}>> Even in the most primitive "things that float" found have
>}>> streamlining of some sort. About the only thing that doesn't is river
>}>> barges that do not move under their own power.
>}>Irish used to use round "coracles", which must have been rather ungainly
>}>in the water, but they could get from Britain to Ireland.
>} I am not familiar. Are you saying they are rectangular?
>Oh if you don't know about coracles, then you're missing a really fun
>subject!
>Coracles are circular:
Circular beats rectangular any day. And certainly I agree to at
least one sort of exception.
>not even elliptical. Navigating them is as hard or
>easy as navigating an inner tube, depending on how good you are with inner
>tubes. I've always been amazed they can make it more than three feet at a time
>in a given direction in them.
Rather the more problem with a rectangular raft, as I was saying.
>They were in use in deep water for at least a few hundred years. Amazing
>tribute to human tradition that. Made of hide too. Some fellow tried to show
>that St. Brendan could have made to the Americas across the Atlantic in a
>coracle, per some Irish sources. Don't remember if he actually made it, but
>seems to me he did, or got so far to the West as to make no matter. Of course
>since they'd probably hit North America somewhere between New Jersey and
>Boston, one wonders why anyone would have bothered coming back to North
>America once they did? (That's a joke.)
Having visited the region, I don't think that region is a
laughing matter either.
But again it asks the question, how would they get back? Rowing?
You can't effectively position oarsmen on a round object.
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