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Re: Atawallpa was no chicken (It was Re: chicken in America: from Asia? (cont.))
>You asked me about Capa and his sources. MAN ACROSS THE SEA lists this
>item in the bibliography.
>Capa, P. R., 1915, ESTUDIOS CRITICOS ACERCA DE LA DOMINACION >ESPANOLA EN
>AMERICA. Pt. 3, INDUSTRIA AGRICOLA-PECUARIA... 4th edition, Madrid.
>He's the guy who thought that many early eyewitnesses reported
>distinctively Asian breeds of chickens from S. America.
What I really wanted to see were the "unique" archival sources upon which
Capa drew which are unavailable to me and other researchers -- the ones
that give Capa, despite his late date, the deep credibility which you
imbue him. Your claim was that he had access to sources which we are
Well, this is true in the sense that -- as you point out in another post
-- he alludes to these sources but does not cite them. Which means that
Carter cannot check them, you cannot check them, and I cannot check them.
I could comb the archives forever, and even if I found "chicken"
references, I would not know whether they were the ones Capa used. We are
left wondering exactly what these eywitnesses said and how much
interpretation Capa did to arrive at the conclusion that "Asian" chickens
were being described.
Since you recently posted the "appeal to authority" fallacy, I'll assume
that you agree we cannot simply trust Capa, but must review the evidence
on which he based his conclusions.
>This matter may be interesting to investigate further. If more such
>reports can be found, and I think this very possible, Carter's case will
>be greatly strengthened.
And of course, I feel compelled to re-iterate that the presence of "Asian"
chickens fifty, a hundred, or two hundred years after contact presents no
problem when you consider the vast traffic between Asia and the New World
from the sixteenth century to the present.