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Re: maize in ancient india: strong transpacific links are indicated
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> Douglas Weller (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote:
> : On 27 Dec 1996 20:11:25 GMT, email@example.com (Yuri Kuchinsky) wrote:
> : >I believe that reality is catching up fast with the American
> : >isolationists. The sand-castle of isolationism is crumbling and sinking
> : >fast under the impact of increasing evidence that demonstrates that
> : >ancient peoples crossed the oceans many thousands of years before
> : >Columbus.
> : What evidence? Your maize, which is supposedly only a few hundred years
> before : Columbus?
> Hey, what's a few hundred years, eh?
> The reality, actually, is that the presence of maize in India and in China
> probably goes back at least to BCE. I know you're a busy man, Doug, what
> with all the hate mail you're sending me. But if you _only_ read carefully
> the material I posted, you will find something about the corn and the
> Boddgaya Temple that is dated to 1 c. BCE.
Yuri, sculpture is not corn. I know you may not be
able to believe it, but people cannot digest rocks.
It's a testable hypothesis, give it a shot if you
Absence of corn is absence of corn.
Presence of sculpture is presence of sculpture.
Indian sculpture is replete with six-armed statues. I suppose
you believe these six-armed individuals existed in large numbers,
too? Chinese dragons existed in numbers as large as their
statuary? Elephant-headed humans existed in India?
Chagall's stabiles had some existence outside of his
imagination (and as other than sculpture)? No sculptor
would *ever* consider taking a fertility symbol like a
pomegranate and elongating it into a phallic symbol.
BTW you've never explained *HOW* the statues were dated, even
though I've asked twice. (Are they equated with the erection
of the temples? God knows, statues are *never* added to a temple
> Listening to your opponents,
> though, is something that is probably not a part of your regular routine,
Pot, kettle, black.
> Well, it's never too late to learn... Perhaps your credibility will
> only benefit if you don't make such obvious comprehension errors as this
Doug's credibility is fine. He isn't the one who has to
selectively expurgate material when he quotes an article
to attempt to make his point.
> : And that is supposedly your best shot, and even that in
> : no way proves the existence of any significant traffic.
> Well, this maize stuff proves the existence of some significant traffic,
> for sure.
You don't seem to get the idea that science doesn't "prove" anything.
You really don't understand scientific methodology, do you?
> Since cultural, mythological, and ritual details apparently
> diffused to Asia from America along with the maize, we must postulate a
must??? Try showing some evidence for corn rather than evidence
for sculpted rock, first.
> number of trips, and a significant number of people coming across as a
> corollary to Johannessen's thesis. This was much more than a couple of
> shipwrecked sailors, it seems.
And if pigs had wings then everyone would realize Pink Floyd
was right when they wrote:
"And any fool knows a dog needs a home,
A shelter from pigs on the wing."
(Pink Floyd, "Pigs on the Wing [Part Two],"
lyrics by Roger Waters)